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Thanks for your advises. I'm still going to continue doing your paper burning ritual. It really moved something inside me, there were a lot of emotions and feelings there, so, I think it's important.

A question about picturing people though. In some passages from your site, I remember you saying that if you want your new car being a Mercedes, don't change your mind after a couple of days and do not imagine a BMW. That it should be the same picture, because if it's not, the Aumakua will have to undo and redo all the work.

Well, when I imagine exact faces of the real and excact people with whom I do actually want to be togheter, I'm thinking about them as of those cars. I mean, if I can visualize the car and the make I'd love to have, why not doing the same with people I'd like to be happy with or having fun with??

I know that, may be, my Aumakua could find some better fitting people for me, but if it's my will and I want to co-create my own reality why shouldn't I do it?

First, I had some moral issues about doing it, because it felt like manipulating the feelings of those people, but later I just changed the expressions of their faces to the really happy ones and all these moral points have gone. It was like creating the condition "make this picture a reality only if this person is happy with it"

Cheers and my best wishes!
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Good Luck dear fellow traveler!

With your goals!

PS: She is coming your way,,,, Don't Worry!!!
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Thanks for your advises. I'm still going to continue doing your paper burning ritual. It really moved something inside me, there were a lot of emotions and feelings there, so, I think it's important.



That is your choice; but there are many different ways to do almost everything, so stop thinking there is only one right way to do a specific thing. This technology is limited ONLY by your imagination. The paper burning ritual is the way that worked for me after I had tried almost EVERYTHING else with almost no success

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Well, when I imagine exact faces of the real and excact people with whom I do actually want to be togheter, I'm thinking about them as of those cars. I mean, if I can visualize the car and the make I'd love to have, why not doing the same with people I'd like to be happy with or having fun with??



There are two reasons why you should not do that approach with people.

1. when you picture them in a relationship with you; you are influencing them, and quite possibly against their will. when you violate a person's free will you have earned karma, and Karma is not always nice when it comes due.

2.Your relationship with a specific person may get you off the lifepath that is right for you and onto another lifepath that is NOT right for you.

I know these because I have experienced both in spades.

As a child of 7-8 I was taught the primciples of Magick but NOT the ethics of magick; so I started manipulating others; then others started manipulating me.

When life becomes difficult you know that you have strayed from your lifepath and you need to change the direction you are going and try to get back to your correct lifepath.

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I know that, may be, my Aumakua could find some better fitting people for me, but if it's my will and I want to co-create my own reality why shouldn't I do it?



Yes you have free will to do that. You also have the free will to put your head in the mouth of a Lion or Aligator; but those are not good career moves either.

There is always a price to be paid for violating another's free will.



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You're right again, I have to test all the other techniques that exist and then keep the ones that work.

Krishnapc - thank you for your kind words!

Speaking of different techniques, I think it could be a good idea (for me for sure..) to clasify them a little bit. I mean, which technique does what or in order to achieve A, what technique should I use.

Other question, Clark Wilkerson says that the Silence is the most important thing that we need to learn, because everything is based on this. Well, sometimes I don't see precise instructions, so I assume that for example in order to do any prayer or any Ha Rite I must first enter the Silence state? Am I right?
If it's so, I must confess it's dificult to me to say the prayers aloud when I'm in the Silence.

When I do your complex removing ritual (the paprer burning) do I suppose to enter the Silence too??

Thans a lot!

Cheers



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Hello dear friend.

Well , it is possible to classify the techniques, to a certain extent, but ultimately it makes no sense as every person has their own unique experiences.

Personally , paper burning ritual helped me get marks even for what i have not written and i ended up having 5 a + and out of 6emoticon
only losing for 3 marks. A perfect a plus.

We have to do some counseling, with the sub conscious. That is to make it aware that a change from the present situation is necessary.
When we deal with the in built fixations.

 
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On your second question,
i totally agree with the fact that silence is an important factor.

It is because for every successful activity you need the full support of the three self .
In the silence state , the sub conscious is in harmony with the conscious self.

So if you are not in silence, the unihilipi may not cmpletely cooperate with you.

Remembr your ultimate aim is to be devoid of all complexes.
So it is highly important to establish a strong conection among all selves, especialy with the unihilipi.
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Well ,
I do not enter in silence during ha rite and paper ritual. But i do ask for complete co operation of my second self.

While during mediuation , and rayers, it is very good to enter the silence., and me personally had great success using dame spotts' brain waves for assisting in entering deeper levels of awareness.

If you have problem telling prayers do the following.

Write down the prayer in a paper.

 Enter the silence.
 Acknowledge your love to your sub mind.
Then Affirm yourself with statements,
EVEN IF I OPEN MY EYES , I SHALL CONTINUE IN THE STATE OF SILENCE.
I WILL BE COMPLETELY RELAXED.
 And a few more pre-determined statements .
When you are sure,
open your eyes,
and read the prayer out loud with all your heart and emotions.
Emotion = Energy.

That's it.
You will certainly ACHIEVE outstanding results.

Good luck.
 
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Other question, Clark Wilkerson says that the Silence is the most important thing that we need to learn, because everything is based on this.



This is true

However; there is not just one silence. There are MANY different levels of the sillence.

Think of a building with four floors, and each floor has 4-10 offices.

The floors are the typical brainwave patterns

Beta
Alpha
Theta
Delta

Beta is your normal wakeful consciousness.

Alpha is the first level of he silence. When you do your deep breathing and visualizing the prayer picture this slows the mind into the alpha brainwave pattern. There are five different frequencies in this brainwave pattern.

Theta this is a window that one goes through as one goes to sleep, and as one wakes up. Maintaining the mind in this level while awake is VERY difficult unless you have a lot of experience meditating.

Delta this is the slowest level of brain operation. This is where the silence is complete with no stray thoughts from the conscious mind. This level is usually experienced when you are asleep, but some advanced meditators can remain awake while in the delta brainwave pattern.

I want you to think of a pamphlet with 16 pages or so. and you can go into the silence by reading the first page, or go deeper by reading the 6th page, or go all of the way by reading the 16th page.

Usually the first 6 levels is sufficent.

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Well, sometimes I don't see precise instructions, so I assume that for example in order to do any prayer or any Ha Rite I must first enter the Silence state? Am I right?



Correct. When you slow the breathing (to gather the mana), still the body, and keep the mind busy with the prayer picture you go in the silence amd the longer you breathe slow you are going deeper and deeper.

I think "The Three Regulations" from Qigong will help you understand what is going on with your body.

A lot of Qigong students have problems keeping the mind body or breath calm and relaxed.

If you get ANY two of the three under control; the third one will slowly come under control.

1. when you hold your hands in position for a ha rite. you are stilling the body.

2. when you slow down your breath to gather mana for the ha rite. you are stilling the breath.

3. when you hold a prayer picture; your busy mind has no other choice than to slow down and enter the silence to one degree or another.


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If it's so, I must confess it's dificult to me to say the prayers aloud when I'm in the Silence.



The three selves communicate via pictures.

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When I do your complex removing ritual (the paprer burning) do I suppose to enter the Silence too??



You ARE entering the silence to one degree or another when you do your inner work.

When you go very deeply into the silence next time do some self suggestion. by saying when I say or think the keyword _______ I will return to this level of the silence.

In "Clearing Your Lifepath: With Kahuna Wisdom" Allan P. Lewis recommended "peace; peace; peace. I will myself into the silnce"

If you were hypnotized one would call this a post hypnotic suggestion. Since you are putting yourself into this mental state it is called self suggestion.

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Well , I do not enter in silence during ha rite and paper ritual. But i do ask for complete co operation of my second self.



Actually you are entering a light form of the silence when doing the paper burning ritual and Ha rites. See my other message that explains how and why this is so.



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You are right, I found too, that every time I'm starting to prepare myself to the Ha Rite or the Huna Prayer and I start unconsciously to ease and relax myself. When I focus on the prayer picture, it seems like I'm starting to feel the peace...

BTW, One of my prayer pictures just came true and surpassed what I was picturing. emoticon It feels great!
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