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Greetings, everyone

The use of pendulums to communicate with and obtain answers from the subconscious mind (unihipili?) has come up often. I confess, I have never had good results using a pendulum. Many books I have read over the years, including books on hypnosis, angels/spirit guides, etc, have suggested the use of pendulums. Since ~ the age of 12 I have tried at various times to connect with my subconscious in some fashion using a pendulum. The responses I obtained were vague, contradictory, or out and out wrong (re: the information I received).

Is it something I'm doing wrong? Is it simply a matter of me being impatient and not sticking with it long enough? (A distinct possibility; I've never continued longer than a few days, instead stopping out of frustration or the fear that my lower self doesn't like me - or worse, might be out to sabotage me! *L*)

Incidentally, when I was a teenager and tried using a Ouija board a few times with friends, it would never work for me. As I always felt that Ouija boards were more about connecting with your subconscious than with spirits, I wondered if it was related to the fact that pendulums didn't seem to "work" for me either.

Pendulum use seems like a biggie when it comes to connecting with the unihipili and clearing complexes, fears, issues, etc. Heaven knows I have a few complexes I'd like dealt with and resolved so I can move on to attracting the things I wish to have and experience in my life. Therefore, I'm eager to learn what I can to do establish a solid link (funny, I really wanted to type 'an HONEST link') with my subconsious.

All advice will be greatly appreciated emoticon

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Greetings, everyone



Aloha nui loa Dee; my sister.

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The use of pendulums to communicate with and obtain answers from the subconscious mind (unihipili?) has come up often.



Pendulums are a great tool for communicating with the basic and higher selves; but there are lots of other tools.

1. My favorite method is by scanning energy variations with my hand. When the answer is yes; I feel a spike in the mana flowing through my hand, and when the answer is no; the flow of mana shuts down.

2. Pendulums you already know about.

3. There is kinnesiology (muscle testing)

4. in come cases; people have cleared the complexes and fixations so the unihipili can communicate directly.

5. Your unihipili communicates with the uhane all of the time. Be observant of dreams, thoughts and ideas that just pop into your head apparently from nowhere (example; you have been thinking of what you are doing at work, and an idea pops in your head that you need to call someone, ask the significant other to check the coffee maker, etc), and especially when you become reactionary (You are upset, and you have the idea to knock the person's face off, etc.).

6. I receive communication from my 'Aumakua (higher self) via mystical experiences. a sudden wind comes out of nowhere as an answer to a question, a bird, insect, or other animal comes very close, etc. Once I was outside praying in nature and a wild racoom walked about five feet away from where I was standing. It was the mystical experience of three doves landing 5-7 feet from where I was standing, and proceeded ro walk around as if I were invisible that directed my lifepath back to studying HUNA.

Stuff like the occurances in #6 really do happen. Over the past 10 days; I have seen ladybugs EVERYWHERE (I have had them land in my hair, on my shirt, and even get into my apartment). People often see the numbers 11 or 1111 show up quiet often.

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I confess, I have never had good results using a pendulum. Many books I have read over the years, including books on hypnosis, angels/spirit guides, etc, have suggested the use of pendulums. Since ~ the age of 12 I have tried at various times to connect with my subconscious in some fashion using a pendulum. The responses I obtained were vague, contradictory, or out and out wrong (re: the information I received).

Is it something I'm doing wrong? Is it simply a matter of me being impatient and not sticking with it long enough? (A distinct possibility; I've never continued longer than a few days, instead stopping out of frustration or the fear that my lower self doesn't like me - or worse, might be out to sabotage me! *L*)



There could be three possible answers.

1. Your unihipili believes that pendulums will not work.

2. Your unihipili needs to be taught how to use a pendulum.

3. Your unihipili may be in a state of rebellion and will not cooperate. (it took years before I could bring my unihipili and uhane into harmony so I could receive direct communication).

You have to understand that the unihipili has the awareness of about a 4 or 5 year-old child.

Your unihipili likes to play games; so be playful in your approach with the unihipili as if it is a game, and you need to train your unihipili which ways to swing the pendulum when the answers are yes and no.

You can get a lot more than yes or no answers via pendulum if you place the answers on a circle on a peice of paper. I think I described that in a reply to Jax in one of the topics.

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Incidentally, when I was a teenager and tried using a Ouija board a few times with friends, it would never work for me. As I always felt that Ouija boards were more about connecting with your subconscious than with spirits, I wondered if it was related to the fact that pendulums didn't seem to "work" for me either.



I do NOT recommend the use of Ouija boards. I had some pretty horrific experiences for two weeks when I had a Ouija board in the early 1980s, and I stay as far away from them as I can.

Before using divinationl you should create sacred space, or mentaly state what will be allowed to communicate via divination (We HUNA practitioners state that the unihipili or 'Aumakua are to provide information).

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Pendulum use seems like a biggie when it comes to connecting with the unihipili and clearing complexes, fears, issues, etc. Heaven knows I have a few complexes I'd like dealt with and resolved so I can move on to attracting the things I wish to have and experience in my life.



Pendulums are only one of many tools you can use.

I recommend pendulums because they are easy and inexpensive to make. a peice of thread tied to a weight (pendant for a necklace, ring, car key, etc.)

ANL - 2B

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...I receive communication from my 'Aumakua (higher self) via mystical experiences. a sudden wind comes out of nowhere as an answer to a question, a bird, insect, or other animal comes very close, etc....



I really enjoy hearing about these kinds of experiences. I have only had an experience like that once in my life. My mother and I were standing graveside just before my maternal grandmother's burial. It was a beautiful, sunny, breezy day. I stood beside Mom, and she had her hands clasped in front of her. Out of nowhere, it seemed, a monarch butterfly fluttered over and landed on my mother's hand. I don't remember exactly how long it stayed there - we were too in awe to take note of that - but it was a long time. At one point in the service (maybe at the end?), the minister said "Amen" and it fluttered away. Now every time I see a butterfly, I say hello to my grandmother!

I would love to have more experiences like that.


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You can get a lot more than yes or no answers via pendulum if you place the answers on a circle on a peice of paper.



That's a new idea I'd like to try emoticon



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I really enjoy hearing about these kinds of experiences.



Experiences like that happen to me on an almost daily basis.

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I have only had an experience like that once in my life. My mother and I were standing graveside just before my maternal grandmother's burial. It was a beautiful, sunny, breezy day. I stood beside Mom, and she had her hands clasped in front of her. Out of nowhere, it seemed, a monarch butterfly fluttered over and landed on my mother's hand.



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I would love to have more experiences like that.



Clear your complexes and fixations; and things like that will happen more frequently.

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That's a new idea I'd like to try emoticon



Try it and let me know how it works for you.

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Hi Dee --
I see a few clues in your letter as to your problems communicating with your Unihipili. Last things first. You wanted to say "an HONEST link". And you refer to your Unihipili as your "subconscious" or even your "lower mind". I feel that your Unihipili may indeed be in rebellion because you regard him as a lesser being, a "sub" or "lower" consciousness. And he really wants an "Honest" link. I believe that Honesty is possible only between equals. So if I were in your shoes I'd explore this with him. Are you uncomfortable with the emotions that come with conversations with him? What are some things you (as "Talker") do or say that make your Unihipili feel put-down or ashamed? What can you do or say that would make him feel better?

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Greetings, everyone

The use of pendulums to communicate with and obtain answers from the subconscious mind (unihipili?) has come up often. I confess, I have never had good results using a pendulum. Many books I have read over the years, including books on hypnosis, angels/spirit guides, etc, have suggested the use of pendulums. Since ~ the age of 12 I have tried at various times to connect with my subconscious in some fashion using a pendulum. The responses I obtained were vague, contradictory, or out and out wrong (re: the information I received).

Is it something I'm doing wrong? Is it simply a matter of me being impatient and not sticking with it long enough? (A distinct possibility; I've never continued longer than a few days, instead stopping out of frustration or the fear that my lower self doesn't like me - or worse, might be out to sabotage me! *L*)

Incidentally, when I was a teenager and tried using a Ouija board a few times with friends, it would never work for me. As I always felt that Ouija boards were more about connecting with your subconscious than with spirits, I wondered if it was related to the fact that pendulums didn't seem to "work" for me either.

Pendulum use seems like a biggie when it comes to connecting with the unihipili and clearing complexes, fears, issues, etc. Heaven knows I have a few complexes I'd like dealt with and resolved so I can move on to attracting the things I wish to have and experience in my life. Therefore, I'm eager to learn what I can to do establish a solid link (funny, I really wanted to type 'an HONEST link') with my subconsious.

All advice will be greatly appreciated

Thank you,
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I see a few clues in your letter as to your problems communicating with your Unihipili. Last things first. You wanted to say "an HONEST link". And you refer to your Unihipili as your "subconscious" or even your "lower mind". I feel that your Unihipili may indeed be in rebellion because you regard him as a lesser being, a "sub" or "lower" consciousness. And he really wants an "Honest" link. I believe that Honesty is possible only between equals. So if I were in your shoes I'd explore this with him. Are you uncomfortable with the emotions that come with conversations with him? What are some things you (as "Talker") do or say that make your Unihipili feel put-down or ashamed? What can you do or say that would make him feel better?



You offered quite a bit of wisdom in your reply Joni:

The Unihipili has a vital job while in our earthwalk. It keeps the physical body kino kanaka working as planed; Unfortunately; most people spend years or abuse and neglect of their unihipili.

About the only thing I would add is that the Unihipili needs to be taught how to swing the pendulum in reply to questions.

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"About the only thing I would add is that the Unihipili needs to be taught how to swing the pendulum in reply to questions."

Yes indeed! Too often people seem to think that the pendulum works "on its own", and then they're disappointed when this doesn't seem to be happening. My experience is that you have to "program" the pendulum, which is probably another way of saying make an agreement with your Unihipili that the pendulum -will- work, and it will work thus and so, and teach him or her the motions. So if I take up a new pendulum, or if I havn't worked with a pendulum for a while, I first hold it gently by the string, and say "this means yes" while visualising a circular motion. Then, "this means no" while visualising side to side. Then set motions to "don't know" or "ask later", which can vary, I go by feel. I do not deliberately make the motions, but in visualising the motions the pendulum takes them on. But I suppose it would be ok to deliberately make the motions if need be, while "programming the pendulum" or teaching your Unihipili. Then I give thanks and encouragement, I feel that this is very important to treat the pendulum (and my Unihipili!) as a friend who is doing me a favor. Or if nothing happens, be gentle, as with a friend who has tried to help you but was not able to at this time.

When I ran across this information earlier today, I took up a pendulum and asked my inside friend, my other self, if he is my Unihipili. He playfully made the pendulum take on some complex motions, while conveying the idea to me that this is a new word to him and he doesn't know right now. But I can always call him by the name we have agreed on several years ago!

Thank you so much for running this site! I can see that this information can help many souls as we struggle to become what we already are. You are doing a lot of good, and so a lot of good will come to you.
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Yes indeed! Too often people seem to think that the pendulum works "on its own", and then they're disappointed when this doesn't seem to be happening.



Moving the pendulum is like teaching the unihipili a new game. It is hard for the Unihipili to play along if it does not know how to play the game.

Sometimes; the unihipili will remain silent because the unihipili has ecome used to being abused or ignored; and can be somewhat afraid to begin offering it's input.

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Then I give thanks and encouragement, I feel that this is very important to treat the pendulum (and my Unihipili!) as a friend who is doing me a favor. Or if nothing happens, be gentle, as with a friend who has tried to help you but was not able to at this time.



Absolutely!

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Thank you so much for running this site! I can see that this information can help many souls as we struggle to become what we already are. You are doing a lot of good, and so a lot of good will come to you.



Mahalo nui loa for the kind words about the site. I am just a simple man trying to share a spiritual technology THAT WORKS with others who are interested.

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Hi everyone emoticon

I've read with interest the follow-up posts in this thread. I find - thankfully - that my attitude about working with my unihipili is slowly changing. I have always been a rather impatient person and become frustrated when things I'm working on don't progress as I want them to, or when I end up sabotaging my own efforts consciously or subconsciously (for lack of a better word). I'm finally getting that I can either work gently with my unihipili at it's pace, or I can continue to be frustrated and try to force it to do what I want, with no positive results.

I was fortunate enough to receive "Fundamentals of Hawaiian Mysticism" for Christmas and am looking forward to working through some of the exercises in it. emoticon

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You're getting it. You are trying to develop a relationship with a part of you that has been mistreated and ignored for years.

Developing a new relationship takes time; so allow your unihipili to take the time to see you are sincere in re-establishing that connection.

About the pendulum; train your unihipili which way to swing the pendulum for yes, and no.

Remeber your unihipili has the reasoning ability of about a 5 year old child. If it has been ignored and mistreated for years; it may take a while.

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