Speaking with the Heart https://bhuna101.runboard.com/t59087 Runboard| Speaking with the Heart en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 13:52:03 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 13:52:03 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300060,from=rss#post300060https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300060,from=rss#post300060quote:Practising positive speech, and clearing complexes, and fixations will help. This took me a long time to accomplish. The Positive Speech part especially. I like to think I have a whole new attitude towards life now, and I'm very careful never to berate my Unihipili for 'forgetting' something, or making me feel 'unwell'. Instead, I apologise for doing something to upset it, and hope it will forgive me as I'm so new to it all. nondisclosed_email@example.com (jax66)Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:40:02 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300059,from=rss#post300059https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300059,from=rss#post300059quote:In the past, using other visualization & manifesting techniques, I used to chose one of two or three main goals/desires to work on. No. That is the wrong way you want to go. You want to do a lot of small goals (as I replied to Tommy's topic about manifestation) When you see these small goals manifest; your unihipili will develop confifidence that the system works. After you have small successes; your unihipili will be more inclined to help you on larger goals. Practising positive speech, and clearing complexes, and fixations will help. quote:From what I've read, though, this neutrality might not be the way to go, either.quote: You can manifest goals you feel neutral about; but your unihipili will really be helpful in your manifestation. ANL - 2B.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Two Bears)Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:09:57 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300058,from=rss#post300058https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300058,from=rss#post300058I just found this line of posts, and I'm glad I did. I suspect I'm going to have to rethink the prayer picture I created and have been working on. In the past, using other visualization & manifesting techniques, I used to chose one of two or three main goals/desires to work on. My typical pattern has always been that I'd want the thing to manifest or be fixed so much (too much?) that I would become impatient (almost grasping) if I didn't see any signs of positive change in my life, or of it manifesting, once I put the technique into action. Quickly after the impatience would come discouragement and sometimes feelings of powerlessness. Usually I gave up working on the goal until the next burst of optimism came along. When I started learning about Huna and the Ha rite, I decided to approach manifesting a desire more carefully. I don't want to repeat my past patterns of choosing one of the "biggies" (major goals/issues) and then be discouraged by failure. I chose a prayer picture of something I would really like, something that would benefit me and that I'd be happy with, but something that I could live without and be ok with if it didn't manifest. I chose something I feel kind of neutral about, so I can maintain an experimental "let's see how this works" attitude. From what I've read, though, this neutrality might not be the way to go, either. Any thoughts on this? Thanks - I appreciate everyone's insights! Dee nondisclosed_email@example.com (Poissons)Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:14:18 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300057,from=rss#post300057https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300057,from=rss#post300057quote:I never thought about it like that, although reading it here makes it very obvious. Glad to be of assistance. quote:Next time I'll take more notice of the 'debate' that takes place in the few moments before the prayer picture. Please let me know what you discover in this debate between the unihipili and uhane. ANL - 2B nondisclosed_email@example.com (Two Bears)Fri, 05 Nov 2004 06:28:01 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300056,from=rss#post300056https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300056,from=rss#post300056quote:It is fine to ask the unihipili to suggest a prayer picture; but the uhane should choose what is to be prayed for instead of the unihipili because the uhane is older and wiser than the unihipili, and offers logic and reason instead of the animalistic nature of the unihipili that is ruled by emotions. I never thought about it like that, although reading it here makes it very obvious. It always felt like the two selves suggested things, then came to an agreement when I was in the silence Next time I'll take more notice of the 'debate' that takes place in the few moments before the prayer picture. nondisclosed_email@example.com (jax66)Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:05:08 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300055,from=rss#post300055https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300055,from=rss#post300055quote:I, too, had problems with prayer pictures. In the end I've taken to going into the silence and asking my Unihipili to show me the prayer picture that we should focus on for that moment. I find it usually works, sometimes you get thrown into a picture you totally did not expect! Jax: It is fine to ask the unihipili to suggest a prayer picture; but the uhane should choose what is to be prayed for instead of the unihipili because the uhane is older and wiser than the unihipili, and offers logic and reason instead of the animalistic nature of the unihipili that is ruled by emotions. quote:More recently, with more practice I've managed to pray successfully for extra financial relief, a new job, the health of myself and my family and an easier homelife. I still find HUNA awesome. I am VERY glad to hear this. I agree completely that Hawai'ian mysticism is VERY powerful. I could not imagine going back to my life the way I used to be. ANL - 2Bnondisclosed_email@example.com (Two Bears)Thu, 04 Nov 2004 06:45:44 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300054,from=rss#post300054https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300054,from=rss#post300054quote:effective prayer can only take place when BOTH the unihipili and uhane are in harmony. This is why prayer pictures must be chosen carefuly. I, too, had problems with prayer pictures. In the end I've taken to going into the silence and asking my Unihipili to show me the prayer picture that we should focus on for that moment. I find it usually works, sometimes you get thrown into a picture you totally did not expect! More recently, with more practice I've managed to pray successfully for extra financial relief, a new job, the health of myself and my family and an easier homelife. I still find HUNA awesome.nondisclosed_email@example.com (jax66)Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:20:56 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300053,from=rss#post300053https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300053,from=rss#post300053quote:Yes!! Thank you! Now I have a BETTER picture. Next time I will envision myself as Brad Pitt and I'm being mobbed by a group of horny young women and there is lingerie flying everywhere. Ha! Ha! Ha!! No, all kidding aside, that clears things up cause I know what my unihipili likes. Two Bears, you have a magnetic personality. If that prayer picture works for you and evokes emotion as you gather a mana surcharge; go for it! I will use the prayer pictures that works for me as an individual. ANL - 2B nondisclosed_email@example.com (Two Bears)Tue, 02 Nov 2004 07:44:38 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300052,from=rss#post300052https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300052,from=rss#post300052Yes!! Thank you! Now I have a BETTER picture. Next time I will envision myself as Brad Pitt and I'm being mobbed by a group of horny young women and there is lingerie flying everywhere. Ha! Ha! Ha!! No, all kidding aside, that clears things up cause I know what my unihipili likes. Two Bears, you have a magnetic personality! Aloha nui loa; Tommynondisclosed_email@example.com (tommyboyat25)Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:56:12 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300051,from=rss#post300051https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300051,from=rss#post300051quote:Two Bears, Aloha quote:Hmm, could you give us some examples? 1. Visualize yourself absolutely happy with the injury healed. 2. visualize yourself happy with the new job. 3. visualize yourself hapily driving the new car. quote:The thing I'm not getting here is that when we are in the silence and focused on a relaxed 4 count breath to build a mana surcharge where do we gather up the emotion By choosing a prayer picture that evokes emotion of the unihipili quote:i'm sitting relaxed in the silence I'm not getting too emotional. Ex. If I have a clear focus on healing an injury and seeing it completely healed then I would find a picture(one that is emotional) to include with that already healed injury? I do not always select a prayer picture that evokes emotion; but most of the times my prayer pictures evoke emotion. Here is a real incident that happened a year ago when I was giving a HUNA workshop in Atlanta. En attendee Joy H. had fallen and hurt her foot badly a few days earlier. During one of the breaks she asked me to do a healing for her foot. I did the ha rite, and visualized her walking pain free, and after 3 minutes; ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WAS HAPPENING. So I asked her what activity she enjoyed that the injury was blocking her from doing. at first; she was reluctant, and finally sheepishly admitted that she liked to dance. I did another Ha rite and changed the prayer picture to her dancing. After 2-3 minutes; this big smile broke out on her face, and she said and I quote "Two Bears: I don't know what just happened; but I felt something shift in my foot." The secret was changing the prayer picture from walking; to doing an activity her unihipili enjoyed. quote:I feel my attention is split. NOW...if I was doing a tribal dance around a bonfire then I could really build up some massive emotion. I can see now why the hawaiians and native americans danced with so much emotion. I find I can build uo as great a mana surcharge as dancing. Often I build up surcharges until I am physicaly shaking. quote:I'm Confused! I hope the answers dispells the confusion. ANL - 2Bnondisclosed_email@example.com (Two Bears)Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:14:37 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300050,from=rss#post300050https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300050,from=rss#post300050Two Bears, Hmm, could you give us some examples? I later wanted to edit my earlier post about this as I have a pretty good grasp on the need for an emotionally charged prayer. I came across some old notes I had from quite a few years back from a spiritual medium and she said..to bring a stronger emotion to what you are wanting. The thing I'm not getting here is that when we are in the silence and focused on a relaxed 4 count breath to build a mana surcharge where do we gather up the emotion to send the prayer picture up to our aumakua? I mean...if I'm doing a ha rite and i'm sitting relaxed in the silence I'm not getting too emotional. Ex. If I have a clear focus on healing an injury and seeing it completely healed then I would find a picture(one that is emotional) to include with that already healed injury? I feel my attention is split. NOW...if I was doing a tribal dance around a bonfire then I could really build up some massive emotion. I can see now why the hawaiians and native americans danced with so much emotion.  I'm Confused! Tommy nondisclosed_email@example.com (tommyboyat25)Mon, 01 Nov 2004 11:24:53 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300049,from=rss#post300049https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300049,from=rss#post300049Max and Tommy: effective prayer can only take place when BOTH the unihipili and uhane are in harmony. This is why prayer pictures must be chosen carefuly. ANL - 2Bnondisclosed_email@example.com (Two Bears)Mon, 01 Nov 2004 05:01:24 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300048,from=rss#post300048https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300048,from=rss#post300048   What you said above really hit it home for me. I sometimes had problems with charging prayers with enough emotional power, and wondered why. Now I know.     I must give more thought to choosing the prayer picture that my Unihipili would go all emotional. That was it! Thanks, 2B. Max    nondisclosed_email@example.com (ebs10452004)Mon, 01 Nov 2004 04:53:16 +0000 Re: Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300047,from=rss#post300047https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300047,from=rss#post300047quote:Aloha Two Bears, quote:Ya know, Clark's "Hawaiian Magic" is getting more and more interesting by the chapter. In ch.19 where he emphasizes the importance of speaking with the heart, with emotion he says that our prayer will not be as effective without it. I understand the need for laser like focus when forming a prayer picture and doing a ha rite but from what clark is saying in the book I feel like I'm missing one more needed ingredient in order to bake the perfect cake, if you will.  Would you please elaborate on this? Here I think the kahuna's ability to explain to Mr. Wilkerson, or Mr. Wilkerson did not get it comes into play. I think the real message was to enlist the emotions of the unihipili to charge the prayers. The way to do this would be to choose a prayer picture that the unihipili would become emotional over. ANL - 2Bnondisclosed_email@example.com (Two Bears)Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:07:20 +0000 Speaking with the Hearthttps://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300046,from=rss#post300046https://bhuna101.runboard.com/p300046,from=rss#post300046Aloha Two Bears, Ya know, Clark's "Hawaiian Magic" is getting more and more interesting by the chapter. In ch.19 where he emphasizes the importance of speaking with the heart, with emotion he says that our prayer will not be as effective without it. I understand the need for laser like focus when forming a prayer picture and doing a ha rite but from what clark is saying in the book I feel like I'm missing one more needed ingredient in order to bake the perfect cake, if you will.  Would you please elaborate on this? Aloha nui loa; Tommy nondisclosed_email@example.com (tommyboyat25)Sun, 31 Oct 2004 02:55:29 +0000