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I wish people would use these message bases.

Ask any questions you have, and I will tell you what I think the answer is. If I do not have an answer; I will try to find one for you.

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Hi Two Bears,

As I said I am here with a "few" questions...I hope that you can have the time and the patience to give me some explanation and I apologise if you have already replied many times to these same questions (unfortunately, at the time, I have not read the whole site and all the messages here, but I am doing it at my best).

Ok, let's see...first of all I am wondering about the "true" meaning of the words HUNA, Kahuna, and Aloha. Let me explain, I have (almost always) found the word HUNA translated as "sacred" but with a wide range of different meanings...for someone it is part of the pre-Christian religion of Hawaii (the part reserved to the Kahunas and not to the average people), for others it is the ancient religion of Hawaii as a whole and not only a part of it, others seems to consider Huna as a modern creation based on Hawaiian spirituality and mysticism while, still others, says that it isn't Hawaiian at all...well, a bit confusing. The same is true also for the word Kahuna, that I have found translated as "master"...in a place I read this word referred to all the practitioners of HUNA...in other places it is referred only to some practitioners initiated in Hawaii into specific lineages...again, a bit confusing. As for Aloha...I usually read it translated as "love", but also in other ways...moreover I have also read that each letter in the word have a special meaning in itself...please, can you help me to better understand?

Other than that...I got quite clear the concepts about mana and mana loa...but I am wondering about the mana mana..please, can you tell me more on this?....moreover,can you tell me if it is only the Aumakua that creates Aka and the 3 Aka bodies?

Well...finally, I am wondering on a couple of points about the Ha Rite...first,please,can you tell me if, during the breathing, the inhalation occurs through the nose (as I think) or through the mouth?....second, I am right in understanding that the picture for the prayer is visualized only when I have already gathered some amount of mana..and not by the very beginning of the breathing?

Wow....seems that,eventually,I was able to write down all the points that I am wondering about...I am sorry for such a long message...maybe I am a bit too enthusiast in my studies...

Again, I hope that you can help me, and I hope too that my questions can be of help also for other members here.

Thanks,

Andrea
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Hi Two Bears,
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Aloha nui loa Andrea; my brother.

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As I said I am here with a "few" questions...I hope that you can have the time and the patience to give me some explanation and



Andrea; it is my pleasure to be of service to my brothers and sisters.

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I apologise if you have already replied many times to these same questions (unfortunately, at the time, I have not read the whole site and all the messages here, but I am doing it at my best).



No apology necessary.

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Ok, let's see...first of all I am wondering about the "true" meaning of the words HUNA, Kahuna, and Aloha. Let me explain, I have (almost always) found the word HUNA translated as "sacred"
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Huna = secret

Kahuna = can mean a teacher, or expert. There were MANY kinds of kahuna. The literal translation kahuna means "keeper of the secret"

Aloha = a greeting (such as hello, good morning, etc) love, mercy, compassion, pity, etc based on the context it is used. If you seperate the two syllables alo ha "it means go with the breath of life".

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others seems to consider Huna as a modern creation based on Hawaiian spirituality and mysticism while, still others, says that it isn't Hawaiian at all...well, a bit confusing.



Max Freedom Long made LOTS of mistakes about Hawai'ian spirituality;

MFL spent the last 52 years of his life trying to reclaim the secrets of the kahunas; but he had several things working against him.

1. The Hawai'ian people would not talk to him about spiritual matters for fear of persecution.

2. He was translating Hawaiian words from a 70 year old Hawai'ian/English dictionary.

3. He was using a Hawai'ian translation of the bible that had a lot of errors in translation.

4. Because of the errors in Hawai'ian translation of the bible caused him to make lots of wrong assumptions about the Hawai'ians being a lost tribe of Israel, Jesus being an initiated kahuna, etc.

5. One of the HRA members (Reginald Stewart lied to MFL in an attempt to encourage his research, and MFL took Mr. Stewart's comments as accurate.

I am trying to peice together the real spiritual technology of the kahuna pule (prayer experts). I took the writings of MFL, the HUNA Science course, the book "Hawaiian Magic" by Clark Wilkerson, and just about every other HUNA book that I could lay my hands on.

Mr. Wilkerson actually was trained by a Hawai'ian kahuna in the late 1950s or early 1960s.

I will be taking the ka hana pono course this september, and I may have a few things to add to Hawai'ian spirituality.

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The same is true also for the word Kahuna, that I have found translated as "master"



Kahuna is equivalent to the title master; but in this case; the word kahuna is being used as a title.

There is a lot of contradictory information available.

Use the techniques that work; and ignore the techniques that do not work.

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...in a place I read this word referred to all the practitioners of HUNA...



I did not begin calling myself a kahuna until I began seeing instant healings happen under my hands. I think that is a fair classification of a kahuna.

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in other places it is referred only to some practitioners initiated in Hawaii into specific lineages...again, a bit confusing.



A kahuna with a strong relationship with one of the Akua would fit your description.

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As for Aloha...I usually read it translated as "love", but also in other ways...moreover I have also read that each letter in the word have a special meaning in itself...[/quote.

I interpret Aloha as love; but the interpretation can vary depending on context.

I do not accept the idea that the a in aloha means aloha, l in aloha means Lokahi, etc.

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[smallplease, can you help me to better understand?



I hope the reply helped.

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Other than that...I got quite clear the concepts about mana and mana loa...but I am wondering about the mana mana..please, can you tell me more on this?....



Mana = the energy you Unihipili gathers from the air you breathe, the food you eat, the liquide you drink. Your Unihipili shares some of the mana it gathers with your Uhane and 'Aumakua.

Mana mana = your Uhane takes the mana the Unihipili shares with it, then supercharges this basic mana into mana mana, and uses this mana mana for thought, visualization in prayer, for speech, etc.

Mana loa = your 'Aumakua takes the basic mana sent by the Unihipili then euper charges it into mana loa. This mana loa is used to create the future you want, answering prayers, healing, etc.

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[]small]moreover,can you tell me if it is only the Aumakua that creates Aka and the 3 Aka bodies?



The 'Aumakua creates all four bodies. the three aka bodies, and the kino kanaka (physical body).

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[small[first,please,can you tell me if, during the breathing, the inhalation occurs through the nose (as I think) or through the mouth?



It does not matter if you breathe through the nose or the mouth. All that matters is the intent to gather surcharge of mana from the breath.

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second, I am right in understanding that the picture for the prayer is visualized only when I have already gathered some amount of mana..and not by the very beginning of the breathing?



This does not really matter either. The longer you can hold the visualization; the more mana mana you will add to the prayer picture.

People that are not visually oriented; can be every bit as effective by holding the single intent in the mind.

HUNA is extremely simple. Do not try to make it more diffucult than it needs to be.

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Wow....seems that,eventually,I was able to write down all the points that I am wondering about...I am sorry for such a long message...maybe I am a bit too enthusiast in my studies...

No worries. I'm glad to help any way I can.

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Thanks,



My pleasure.

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Hi Two Bears,

Wow, you reply is more than helpful, thank you very much...what you said cleared the matter very well and makes a great sense for me.

Now I have all clear about the words that I asked you...btw, I think that your definition of when someone really is a Kahuna is very effective and indisputable.

As for the Aloha thing about the single letters having a specific meaning...well, naturally the question arose by the writings of Serge Kahili King and I am very happy to have read your opinion on this point.

Also the explanations that you gave me about mana, mana mana, mana loa, and the 'Aumakua are outstanding,thank you again.

Well, I have been a bit fussy about the breathing and the visualization...the fact is that I have had a brief previous training in the field of ceremonial magick and in the teaching was stressed the importance to spell the right words in the right time with the right gestures and so on. Sometimes I forgot that intent is the most important thing and that "keep it simple" is often a golden rule.

I have read (in other parts of the site as well as in some of your reviews) what you wrote here about the writings of MFL..I can understand the errors he did and I can also understand why he did these errors in his times. To be honest I have more troubles in understanding why some other HUNA authors does the same errors still today....and even a step further involving the Egyptians, Mu, Atlantis and so on...

Ok...I think that you're doing a great work in trying to piece together the real spiritual technology of the kahuna pule...btw, I am wondering about what these HUNA science course and ka hana pono course are.

Thank you again for your help.

Andrea
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Aloha nui loa Andrea; my brother

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Wow, you reply is more than helpful, thank you very much...what you said cleared the matter very well and makes a great sense for me.



Glad to help.

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Now I have all clear about the words that I asked you...



Good. If I may be of further assistance; just ask.

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btw, I think that your definition of when someone really is a Kahuna is very effective and indisputable.



Just stating things how I feel.

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Also the explanations that you gave me about mana, mana mana, mana loa, and the 'Aumakua are outstanding,thank you again.



You are quite welcome; my brother.

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Well, I have been a bit fussy about the breathing and the visualization...the fact is that I have had a brief previous training in the field of ceremonial magick and in the teaching was stressed the importance to spell the right words in the right time with the right gestures and so on. Sometimes I forgot that intent is the most important thing and that "keep it simple" is often a golden rule.



HUNA is VERY simple. a young child can get this spiritual technology in a very short time.

Max Freedom Long; once quipped "If your're not using Huna; your're working too hard.".

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To be honest I have more troubles in understanding why some other HUNA authors does the same errors still today....and even a step further involving the Egyptians, Mu, Atlantis and so on...



MFL brought in the idea that this spiritual technology began in Mu, then transferred to Egypt, then to Israel, then to Hawai'i.

The HUNA authors believe MFL's assumptions were correct, then forwarded the errors in their books.

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Ok...I think that you're doing a great work in trying to piece together the real spiritual technology of the kahuna pule...[/quote\

I don't know hoe well I am succeeding in my goal; but I am doing the best I can.

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btw, I am wondering about what these HUNA science course and ka hana pono course are.



Huna Science was published in 15 booklete in Lakewood, Georgia; back in 1971. I sold the course on Ebay a few days ago.

I have not taken the Ka hana pono course yet. I have only scheduled to take the course in three months.

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Thank you again for your help.



My pleasure.

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Hi All,

I am here with, if it is possible, a couple of questions about HUNA healing (ok, I am always here with some question).

Two Bears, you know that English isn't my mother language so that these questions can sound very simple, but I only wish to be sure that I am well understanding what I read.

Ok...when you write "do the Ha rite, and place your hands where the person reports pain"...you means that I have to do the Ha rite (and gathering the mana surcharge) before to place the hands on the body ?....moreover, you means to place the hands with the palms lying in contact with the body and not cup and hold as for the Ha rite?

Again...when you wrote...that the mana loa comes "back through your hands to heal the person"...there is something that I have to do in order to draw back the mana loa or it is an automatic process ?...and there're some feelings or sensations involved in this coming back of the mana loa?

Other than this I wish to point out that the whole chapter about the "Clearing complexes of fixations" is wonderful and ,IMHO, of utmost importance and utility. In a few pages you provided a series of techniques and rituals that are as clear and simple as effective and useful....I am going to work on myself using them.

I am particularly amazed by what you wrote about the pendulum. When I still was a teenager my grandfather taught me to use a pendulum in order to "get in touch" with my sub-conscious self. He told me that if you are really able to not joke yourself when using the pendulum then it will enable you to find out things and issues about yourself that you aren't usually aware of. By then I used a pendulum (made out with almost everything) in order to get a clearer view of my thoughts,feelings, and ideas about several situations in my life. The funny side of this is that I found myself ,several times, trying to find out an agreement between the different viewpoints of my conscious-self and my sub-conscious one about a given situation....well, I wonder if this was a kind of "artisanal" HUNA.

Well...each day a new discovery.

Take Care

Andrea
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Aloha nui loa Andrea; my brother.

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I am here with, if it is possible, a couple of questions about HUNA healing (ok, I am always here with some question).



That's great!

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Ok...when you write "do the Ha rite, and place your hands where the person reports pain"...you means that I have to do the Ha rite (and gathering the mana surcharge) before to place the hands on the body ?



You can do the ha rite before or while you place your hands. It makes no difference.

There are only two things that really matters.

1. The intent to gather a mana surcharge.

2. The prayer picture of the person being in perfect health.

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....moreover, you means to place the hands with the palms lying in contact with the body and not cup and hold as for the Ha rite?



Just place your hands, and allow your hands ro relax.

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there is something that I have to do in order to draw back the mana loa or it is an automatic process ?



It is completely automatic. The 'Aumakua ramps the mana into mana loa and uses the mana loa to manifest the prayer picture into reality. This is why I said there are only two things that matters.

1. the intent to gather the mana surcharge.

2. a good prayer picture.

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Other than this I wish to point out that the whole chapter about the "Clearing complexes of fixations" is wonderful and ,IMHO, of utmost importance and utility. In a few pages you provided a series of techniques and rituals that are as clear and simple as effective and useful....I am going to work on myself using them.



Mahalo nui loa (Thank you very much) for the kind words. I am glad you like and approve of that material. Those simple techniques transformed my life!

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I am particularly amazed by what you wrote about the pendulum. When I still was a teenager my grandfather taught me to use a pendulum in order to "get in touch" with my sub-conscious self. He told me that if you are really able to not joke yourself when using the pendulum then it will enable you to find out things and issues about yourself that you aren't usually aware of. By then I used a pendulum (made out with almost everything) in order to get a clearer view of my thoughts,feelings, and ideas about several situations in my life. The funny side of this is that I found myself ,several times, trying to find out an agreement between the different viewpoints of my conscious-self and my sub-conscious one about a given situation....



Pendulums are very useful tools.

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well, I wonder if this was a kind of "artisanal" HUNA.



Pendulums are useful for a LOT of different purposes.

Pendulums also happen to be useful in HUNA too!

Aloha nui loa

Two Bears

Well...each day a new discovery.

Take Care

Andrea





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Hi Two Bears,

Thank you for the new and (as always) very exhaustive explanations.

I think that now I got all very clear about these points...and I am very happy for this.

Take Care

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You are quite welcome Andrea.

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Hi Two Bears,

As always I am here looking for your help and advice about some points in the HUNA101...I hope that other members or visitors here (both present and future) will get some benefits out of all the questions that I am asking you.

Well, today I am wondering about psychic protection....in except, I have read about your concers in regard to the evil or negative entities while using techniques in order to clear dwellings or persons from them. Sincerely it is the first time that I read about this concern and I am wondering about the reason (also if I think that it is related with the HUNA commandment, including also evil and negative entities in the concept of "nothing"), please, can you tell me more?....moreover, by providing these entities with a new dwelling, and then leaving it in the woods, we are not creating a potencial danger for other people that can find these entities? Other than this...you wrote that pine and ti plants are high in mana...I am wondering if you know about other plants,trees,stones or natural objects that has this same good quality.

Ok, you said that, instead of HUNA, you would use the name of Pule me mana.. you know that I am very curious so that, please, can you tell me what this name means?

Only a last thing...I found very interesting what you wrote about the pig's sacrifices to Pele, especially the part about the goddess taking the essence and the meat providing food for the people...as far as I know this same concept can be found in Vodou with the offerings to the Loas, and in several traditions throughout the world as well...again, very interesting.

Well, this is all, as always...thank you in advance for your time and attention in helping me but, please, feel free to let me know if I am writing or asking too much in such a short time.

P.S. I tried to send you an E-mail yesterday, but I'd know that my outlook express is having some troubles these days...so that I am wondering if you got it or not.

Take Care

Andrea
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