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Nothing in the world is free. Everything costs something, like time, money, effort, karma, you name it. Many of
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We will have to agree to disagree. The best things in life are free. The warmth from the sun, the air we breathe, our very life, are all free gifts from the Creator.

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As for controling other people's thoughts. One can do so without violating their free will.



We have to agree to disagree again If it was that person's free will to had that thought he or she would have had that thought without interjection from the person who sent it.


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I don't have Moses K's course, either, but it's on my watch list.



Since I wrote the message above; I HAVE listened to the course by Moses K.

I do not recommend it.

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I too would love to hear from anyone that has the course, and already knows a bit of Huna.



I no longer have the course. a friend loaned me a copy, and I returned it, and I do know quite a bit about Hawai'ian mysticism (aka huna).

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resource for reviews I have seen so far is Two Bears, too pitty he only covers the books.



I discuss the books because the HUNA courses I have taken have been a waste of time and money.

HRI. You will read the Christianitized ramblings of Max Freedom Long who added 2 and 2 in a few places and reached the sum of 6.

Moses K. believes it is perfectly acceptable to violate the spiritual laws and influence people against their will, and in the course mentions things the Hawai'ian kAhuna had no way of doing, or would not have done it because it violated the spiritual laws.

I will see if I can recover the notes I recorded as I listened to the course.

Huna Science published by CSA. It has some nice information if you can find a copy. It was published in 1971, and is no longer available. I bought and re-sold (the copy I studied) it on eBay.

The only good HUNA course that I can recommend without much reservation is the 14 chapters (or lessons) in the book "Clearing Your Lifepath: With Kahuna wisdom" by Allan P. Lewis. This course begins talking of the minds of man, the bodies of man, Clearing complexes and fixations, of breath and mana, meeting your high s4elf; but even this huna course has a lot of Christianity in the book.


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If it was that person's free will to had that thought he or she would have had that thought without interjection from the person who sent it.


Say the person is hiring you and their range of possible pay is 30-40k. You influence them to give you 40k. Is that against their will? Or they want to sell you a car. They ask 5k but their lowest acceptable price is 3.5k. You influence them to sell it to you for 3.5k. Is that against their free will in your book?

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I discuss the books because the HUNA courses I have taken have been a waste of time and money.


There are also audios or vhs put out by Vince Wingo, Doc La Tourrette, MasterWorks, and maybe few others. Yesterday I just stumbled upon an old tape with Morrnah Simeona, for example. Too bad there are little reviews for most of them, or real content disclosed.

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I will see if I can recover the notes I recorded as I listened to the course.


That would be very highly appreciated! And I know at least one other person that would be very interested, I would point her here. Anything would be helpful, even very little.

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HRI. You will read the Christianitized ramblings of Max Freedom Long who added 2 and 2 in a few places and reached the sum of 6.


I know you are picking them up on this in many of your reviews. I understand. I don't mind myself as long as the other stuff, the methods, are working. The rest I take just as a nice story. Though, it's thanks to you I know it's a nice story and not the truth.

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Moses K. believes it is perfectly acceptable to violate the spiritual laws and influence people against their will, and in the course mentions things the Hawai'ian kAhuna had no way of doing, or would not have done it because it violated the spiritual laws.


I have read (well just partially) Kahuna Sorcerers by Rodman, and it's full of black magic stuff Kahunas did. Is black magic among what you meant by violation of the spiritual laws?

Anyway, if you could go more into depth on stuff by Moses K.,it would be highly appreciated.

From the conversations with him I understood he might probably mix many other systems into it, and his motto is along "if it works great,you will probably find it in other advanced system too", or in other words "all systems share same powerful methods" if I can paraphrase it very freely. I know a bit of Doc La Tourrette's stuff, and he also mixes Huna, with NLP and Silva Mind Control and probably few other, though what's nice on his approach is that he will always tell you what is what.

Looking forward for more observations you might have.

Appreciatively,
Tom

PS. I have just reread both my posts. Hope you will not find them rude! They are definitely not meant that way. English is not my mothers language so I sometimes don't get the nuances... If I ask question, it is a question, no irony meant, and all meant in full respect and honesty. Thank you for bearing with me.

PSPS. Just ordered the book by Charlotte Berney (based on your recommendation), and read her lesson at http://www.hawaiianmysticism.com/wst_page5.html and I think I am now understanding your remarks about ethics more than before.

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Say the person is hiring you and their range of possible pay is 30-40k. You influence them to give you 40k. Is that



If you influence them to accept 30 K, and they really wanted 40K you would be in violation of the spiritual laws.

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There are also audios or vhs put out by Vince Wingo,



I have never seen a video put out by the Wingo's and I reserve comment until I have.

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Doc La Tourrette, MasterWorks, and maybe few others.



I know Doc, and I lost ALL respect for him when I saw him pushing "The Origins of Huna" with four of his pamphlets for $50 when the Orifins of Huna cost only $15.

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Yesterday I just stumbled upon an old tape with Morrnah Simeona, for example. Too bad there are little reviews for most of them, or real content disclosed.



Never saw or read anything by this person; so again I reserve comment.

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That would be very highly appreciated! And I know at least one other person that would be very interested, I would point her here. Anything would be helpful, even very little.



I will see if I can find those comments.

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I know you are picking them up on this in many of your reviews. I understand. I don't mind myself as long as the other stuff, the methods, are working. The rest I take just as a nice story.



He should tell yje truth not tall tales.


Though, it's thanks to you I know it's a nice story and not the truth.

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I have read (well just partially) Kahuna Sorcerers by Rodman, and it's full of black magic stuff Kahunas did. Is black magic among what you meant by violation of the spiritual laws?



Yes. Black Magic is in violation of the spiritual laws.

Yes. some kahuna particippated in black magic; but those were a tiny numper of kahunas as a whole. No Kahuna nui, kahuna pule, kahunaaloha, etc EVER violated the spiritual laws. There were two types of kahuna that did black magic. kahuna ano ano, and the kahuna that sent sickness. I do not remember that type of kahuna at present.

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From the conversations with him I understood he might probably mix many other systems into it, and his motto is along "if it works great,you will probably find it in other advanced system too", or in other



This causes confusion. When I teach Hawai,ian mysticism, I do not teach techniques from Reiki, Qigong, etc. I believe in keeping a spiritual technology pure.

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words "all systems share same powerful methods" if I can paraphrase it very freely.



It is one thing to say that Actualism meditation, the kahuna pillar of Light, the buddhist being of light meditation, the Kabbalist meditation called the middle pillar are similar because they ALL share some of the same exercizes; but it is wrong to say they are the same when they are NOT!

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I know a bit of Doc La Tourrette's stuff, and he also mixes Huna, with NLP and Silva Mind Control and probably few other,



I have heard it said that Jose silva mixed HUNA into his exercizes not the other way around.

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PS. I have just reread both my posts. Hope you will not find them rude!




No worries. I did not find them rude.

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PSPS. Just ordered the book by Charlotte Berney (based on your recommendation), and read her lesson at http://www.hawaiianmysticism.com/wst_page5.html and I think I am now understanding your remarks about ethics more than before.



I am VERY glad you understand what I was trying to tell you now.

When you wish something into someone's else's life; you are really wishing this into your own life. that is wht the saying "Be careful what you pray for because you just might get it" is so true.

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I have heard it said that Jose silva mixed HUNA into his exercizes not the other way around.


On the MasterWorks board I read about connections between Silva and MFL, though I don't remember any details except that Silva was trying to help MFL with his health problems.

Basically what Doc La Tourrette teaches on VHS that I have from him, is that you do the Huna prayer in Alpha (the Silva way). When in Alpha, your unihipili and uhane are "one". This shall make the Huna prayer more potent than when done in usual beta state.

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I am VERY glad you understand what I was trying to tell you now.

I was definitely not into black side, so to speak, but your posts about not healing directly and only offering the mana to the aumakua of the person to be healed, were an eye opener for me, something to think about.

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On the MasterWorks board I read about connections between Silva and MFL, though I don't remember any details except that Silva was trying to help MFL with his health problems.



If I recall correctly; I think Vinson Wingo og HRI told me of the link between Silva and HUNA

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VHS that I have from him, is that you do the Huna prayer in Alpha (the Silva way). When in Alpha, your unihipili and uhane are "one". This shall make the Huna prayer



That is NOT exactly true. When the conscious mind is in alpha; there is less chance of the uhane making a judgement call on the prayer before the unihipili starts to work on it.

If the uhane makes a judgement call "This won't work; this prevents the unihipili from acceting the prayer as fact.

Going into alpha will assist in getting prayers answerted; but will NOT help develop harmony between the low and middle selves.

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I was definitely not into black side, so to speak, but your posts about not healing directly and only offering the mana to the aumakua of the person to be healed, were an eye opener for me, something to think about.
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If you only send the prayer picture and the mana to the person directly; you are only using mana mana. If you send the prayer picture AND mana to the person's 'aumakua; their aumakua will ramp that mana charge to mana loa and heal them if it is in their best interest. If not; their 'aumakua will ramp the mana into mana loa and use that energy in another way that IS in the person's highest good.

Sending the energy to the person's 'aumakua is like saying "Here is my idea to solve this problem; but if you have a better idea; use that one.


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Two Bears, I know, it's been a long time, but may be you can recover those notes on the Moses K. course?

Just wondering why this guy's course is bad? I've been offered his course with quite affordable price, that's why I'm interested.

And the question to all of you, do you know anything about this Moses K. there seems to be a very little info on him and it's wierd because there are not too many people involved in Huna on internet and even less who have some kind of a product and everyone of these tries to promote his product, but this guy does not do any marketing at all. Well, may be a little.

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Two Bears, I know, it's been a long time, but may be you can recover those notes on the Moses K. course?



Sorry but those notes are either lost or misplaced. The ONLY motes left are in my memory banks.

The course came on a series of CDs. One of the CDs did not have any talking on it. It was supposedly encoded in a way for your subconscious mind to pick up. I did not get very much out of the entire set, abd nothing out of the CD with special encoding.

After I sent him an E-Mail of my notes I returned the set of DVDs to him.

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And the question to all of you, do you know anything about this Moses K. there seems to be a very little info on him and it's wierd because there are not too many people involved in Huna on internet and even less who have some kind of a product and everyone of these tries to promote his product, but this guy does not do any marketing at all. Well, may be a little.



This is news. Moses K used to promote the course a lot on message boards that really had nothing to do with his field




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