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Wow! Good points, all!

It is a mystery why someone would refuse healing, sometimes it's because a person is afraid that if they cease to suffer, they cease to exist, sometimes it's becuase they need to learn something that they havn't learned yet. Leaves turn toward the sun, while roots dig into the ground, and water seeks its own level. We are very complex multilayered beings.

BUt I see that the right to self protection trumps all, here Huna is different from other systems which teach self-sacrifice and self-anihilatoin. And putting crystals in his bed for self protection is different from the things I've seen my famiy do; they did these things because they wanted to manipulate other people into conforming (to fundamentalist catholic ways). Sam says, in that context, putting the crystals in his bed would be like putting a pan beside his bed if he were in the habit of getting sick during the night. Why not protect yourself from having to clean up a mess?
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I agree. I used to do something similar for a friend's place just after his wife died last year. He needed a lot of emotional support, didn't even want to be alone in the house at first. My friend is not of like mind when it comes to metaphysics / spirituality, so before I'd go out to spend time with him I'd use visualization to cast a protective, cleansing circle of mana loa from Creator around the house, clearing it of any negative energies. Then I'd invite the Angels to guard, protect and uplift the space while I was there, so that the time I spent with my friend would serve his highest good and the highest good of all.

I am very sensitive to psychic energies. My friend was grieving and depressed, and his wife had just died in that house from an overdose of antidepressant medication. Without these purifying, protective measures I wouldn't have been able to talk myself into spending any time in that house with him at all. I was concerned about interfering with my friend's free will at first, but by going ahead and doing it anyway a few times I discovered 2 things ...

1. If creating a 'protective circle' around my friend's place broke the spiritual laws, it wouldn't have worked and the Angels would not have come. Well it did and They did, in no uncertain terms - that house felt terrific!



That us my understanding as well; ut that was a complex series of questions, and I wanted input from others.

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2. At this stage of the game I can't seem to get away with diddley-squat karmically. If I'd broken the spiritual laws, the backlash would have been instant and unmistakable



That is my experience aw well The more one lives consciously; the faster karmic retribution happens.

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So I don't think Dee will have a problem leaving the crystals about to help herself and her friend. She lives there, after all! IMO that makes it not only her right but her responsibility to keep herself and her space clear of negativity.



You used the word responsibiility about Dee setting sacred space; I would go further and say it is her duty to determine what energies are permitted to invade her sacred space.

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Folks generally do not care to hear this, but Western culture awards benefits, or "secret payoffs" for being sick.



I agree completely!

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I've learned to spot the "happy hypochondriac type" from a mile away. I rarely bother to offer them healing energy anymore.



I am still working on that one

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Wow! Good points, all!



A agree Joni: This has been an active topic, and much wisdom has been shared. kudo's goes to everyone that participated, and especial kudo's to Dee for starting the topic.

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It is a mystery why someone would refuse healing, sometimes it's because a person is afraid that if they cease to suffer, they cease to exist,



I think some times; the unihipili feels as if it DESERVES to be sick and in pain, and the uhane looks at the years the kino kanaka has been alive; and EXPECTS to feel old and sick; so you have an atmosphere where the unihipili and uhane manifest disease in the kino kanaka.

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sometimes it's becuase they need to learn something that they havn't learned yet



I agree completely.

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BUt I see that the right to self protection trumps all,



That is the way I see things.

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here Huna is different from other systems which teach self-sacrifice and self-anihilatoin. And putting crystals in his bed for self protection is different from the things I've seen my famiy do;



Completely different.

But in this area; we are really outside the Christianitized version of HUNA as postulated by MFL or Madeleine C. Morris. This is why I am using the term I coined four years ago (Pule me mana) It is Hawai'ian for "Pray with lifeforce energy".

I never looked at the crystals as trying to control anyone; just an invitation for the negative entities or energies to leave the premesis. I looked this completely in the scope of self protection.

I am VERY sorry your family tried to control you.

I remember as a child at church; I heard a womann pray and asking that her son would e hurt at work, or in a minor accident so "He could find Jesus" That gave me the creeps.

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Sam says, in that context, putting the crystals in his bed would be like putting a pan beside his bed if he were in the habit of getting sick during the night. Why not protect yourself from having to clean up a mess?



Sounds as if Sam is a good friend.

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I remember as a child at church; I heard a woman pray and asking that her son would be hurt at work, or in a minor accident so "He could find Jesus".

Now there's a 'prayer' technique guaranteed to work well! If your goal is to become a homing device for every 'negative influence/entity' in the vicinity, I mean ...
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Now there's a 'prayer' technique guaranteed to work well! If your goal is to become a homing device for every 'negative influence/entity' in the vicinity, I mean ...



Ufortunately most Christians are not taught the spiritual laws.

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