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I'm sure you will be able to find people who's willing to share - I for instance have no qualms about it. I like to do it just for the extra practice. But I'm no expert, more like still a student. I was actually thinking that it maybe would have been possible for you to join a study group somewhere, don't know if there are any in South Korea, though. These would surely be for free, but the quality will most likely not be like a formal training. I think maybe the best thing would be to ally with a friend, get to know some basics and then just go out and practice. Too many people try to learn NLP just by reading. And yet, a fundamental principle in NLP is to throw away anything that doesn't really work. And how will you ever know if you don't apply what you learn?

I know there are several institutions giving you discounts if your a student for instance, and maybe even if you really are poor. But then again, some of the institutions would say "hey, if you're poor you can't really afford NOT to sign up for this training!". The only way to know for sure is to ask. A money back guarantee would suffice for me in most situations, and I think most institutions will offer you that. A lot of the institutions also have free introductory nights, a good way to check out what they have to offer and how you feel about the whole thing. But travelling to another country just for this isn't exactly cost efficient!

I think giving and caring is probably as important as you. But I sure feel the giving should go both ways. And to a "master" I have little less to offer than my money as of yet. Sure, voluntary donations are fine. But let me ask you this: Did you truly donate what you thought the Lamas teachings was worth? Maybe you did, but most people won't.

To be honest, I don't fully understand the 3D-mind thing yet my self either, even though I "learned" it at the seminars. Looking at the questions from the 3D-mind forums, it sometimes seems that Tom (and maybe Kim) is the only one who really understands it. But I think it's still a developing modell, so I don't really blame Tom. Except from maybe presenting it as a finished modell able to fix most of your problems. Sure, it works, if you just don't happen to make any mistakes. And there are lots of possible mistakes to make. I guess the videos don't really go into that, and you need to update yourself through the forums to really be able to use it efficiently. I haven't really found it worthwhile to do that yet, although I notice some people are clearly huge believers in this product...
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I have had two men I trust tell me that David K. Bray was a kahuna in name only.

The story was that in the kate 1920s or early 1930s there was a hotel built in Hawaii, and they were holding a beauty contest of some kind, and they could not get any Hawai'ians to work for the hotel because the hotel wad not been blessed by a kahuna. the owners said fine; just ask one of your kahuna to bless the hotel; and no go because they were areaid the kahuna would be persecuted for practising the old ways; so they tried to find a kahuna to bless the hotel and no go. They finally went to meet with MFL to see if he knew any kahuna; again the answer was no (that he did not know any kahuna at the time; but said he DID have the blessing chant if that would help them. So they found David K. Bray because of his weird appearance, and they paid him $50 to memorize and perform the blessing chant so the Hawai'ians would work there.

After David K. Bray was acknowledged as a kahuna; he took the ball and ran with it.


That is an interesting story.

I have read another one, and that was about Daddy Bray visiting MFL in Vista, and asking for his permission to use huna "brand" for his teachings (he went to teach huna in California), and chanted a blessing on his house when he left.

If MFL knew or thought Bray wasn't a real kahuna, what would be the point to meet him or let him chant. Maybe that MFL was just a nice person so he let him do it. But it was said he mentioned it in his newsletter, why would he do that? To get more backing for his Huna by "having a real kahuna come for approval and talk"?

Anyway, this connection of the two stories is just a pure speculation on my side.

There are so many stories floating around and hard to make up the mind on it all. Maybe it's not even that important after all...

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That is an interesting story.

I have read another one, and that was about Daddy Bray visiting MFL in Vista, and asking for his permission to use huna "brand" for his teachings (he went to teach huna in California), and chanted a blessing on his house when he left.

If MFL knew or thought Bray wasn't a real kahuna, what would be the point to meet him or let him chant. Maybe that MFL was just a nice person so he let him do it. But it was said he mentioned it in his newsletter, why would he do that? To get more backing for his Huna by "having a real kahuna come for approval and talk"?

Anyway, this connection of the two stories is just a pure speculation on my side.

There are so many stories floating around and hard to make up the mind on it all. Maybe it's not even that important after all...



Huna mind:

All I can tell you is how the story was told to me by two people who knew MFL, and neither of them knew I was asking the other person.

The two people who told me that story are Vinson Wingo, and the author Brad Steiger.

In the years I have been walking this path; I have encountered many rare and hard to find books, and made some good friends; like Arlyn J. MacDonald, Brad Steiger, Tom Lewis, etc, and many other students of this path.

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Maybe one of things, that we must make here in this lifetime is to blend most of the systems for self development, but in order we must forget the names-nlp, huna, hermetic order of Golden Dawn and so on. Here is my point about Time Line exercice-it is a wish to project your mind into the future for making your dream cometrue.In reality it is an old exercise-written in an article by Donald Michael Kraig-the author of Modern Magick. For Tad James, when I watch him in a video I feel , that this man is making money " Teacher ", you know we are clairvoyance in one way or another. Other thing to mention is the structure of his site with marketing hints to buy from him, like the method Silva sites. Maybe one of the things to know someone is first to look at their sales letter. For example in www.meta-magick.com Philip Farber does not make such sales letters. All the best
From Stefan from Bulgaria.
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Maybe one of things, that we must make here in this lifetime is to blend most of the systems for self development, but in order we must forget the names-nlp, huna, hermetic order of Golden Dawn and so on.



You just put your finger on it. Our mission here is to learn and grow both mentally and spiritually. Those are the only things we can take with us when we leave.

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Right. I don't believe the nlp technique phobia cure will work, when you are under great shock, panic, phobia. Maybe some great teacher like Richard Bundler will help me.NO.Even mention the memory and the reactions start. This technique is for some light fear. Show me nlp teachers. Modeling and anchor techiques +swish pattern work, but Ha Prayer work high above. Aloha...
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