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Boy, what a busy month! I've been away from the board for a while but have thoroughly enjoyed getting caught up on the posts this morning.

I thought I would start a thread about dream symbols. I dream a lot but have never been very good at figuring out the symbols in my dreams. Over the past two months or so, I've had several dreams where, of all things, I'm playing slot machines! Any ideas about this?

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Boy, what a busy month! I've been away from the board for a while but have thoroughly enjoyed getting caught up on the posts this morning.



Welcome back. I haad wondered why you were so quiet.

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I thought I would start a thread about dream symbols. I dream a lot but have never been very good at figuring out the symbols in my dreams. Over the past two months or so, I've had several dreams where, of all things, I'm playing slot machines! Any ideas about this?



The slot machine symbol is being used by your unihipili. What have you thought of when you saw slot machines or saw people playing them? That is what your unihipili is trying to tell you.

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I want to point out how 2B's answered this post. Instead of giving his opinion of the "meaning" of the symbol of slot machines, he turned the question back on the questioner.

This is how a "true teacher" works. The issue is not whether he "knows" the answer. The issue is that the dreamer must begin to take responsibility for reaching for the meaning of her own dream. Guru's too often rescue seekers from taking responsibility for their own inner work. I want to honor Two Bears for his understanding and sense of responsibility for those who work here with him.

As he has said elsewhere, the dialog is between the dreamer and the dreamed. Each of us, if we want to dialog with our Higher Selves--our dreamer--must seek out or learn a language by which to dialog. We already know that Higher Self does not dialog through a personality as such, but communicates directly through images, stories, dreams, and even feelings, synchronicities, and 'hunches.' Knowing this, if you needed to learn a "foreign language" to speak with a higher level of your own consciousness, how would you go about developing and learning a set of symbols you and Higher Self might agree upon? Same with your Basic, or Lower Self, of course, although the language here might be different again! What proposed language could 'you', as your Middle Self, offer to your Higher and Lower Selves and then include in your prayers? Where might you find, or look for, or discover, a language that is already embeded deep within the Collective Consciousness and Unconscious--one that is already known to many people with experience?

Good dreaming!





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I want to point out how 2B's answered this post. Instead of giving his opinion of the "meaning" of the symbol of slot machines, he turned the question back on the questioner.



Aloha nui loa Lee; my brother.

Everyone's dream symbols are unique to them because the Uhane and unihipili have been developing this symbolic language for all of their life, and my opinion of a dream symbol may be correct for someone else, and may e way off. If I suggest MY interpretation; I may be helping; but I could be hindering their spiritual growth (Something I do ot want to do, and have no right to interfere with.

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This is how a "true teacher" works. The issue is not whether he "knows" the answer. The issue is that the dreamer must begin to take responsibility for reaching for the meaning of her own dream. Guru's too often rescue seekers from taking responsibility for their own inner work. I want to honor Two Bears for his understanding and sense of responsibility for those who work here with him.



thaks for the kind words Lee; but I thought I was only remarking the obvious.

I got so tired of the books that interpret dreams where a dog means loyal companion, or a plane means travel.

Those are only one interpretation of the dream symbols; but is a person was attacked y a dog; their unihipili would NOT see the dog as a trusted companion no matter how many times the Uhane read it in a book, and if the person was afraid to fly; the plane would NOT look forward to a upcoming trip.

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through a personality as such, but communicates directly through images, stories, dreams, and even feelings, synchronicities, and 'hunches.' Knowing



People also receive flashes of insppiration from our 'Aumakua.

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I hope that my reaction to Two Bears response to your suggestion for this thread wasn't offensive. I didn't mean that your proposal for a discussion of dream symbols wasn't a good one. If I did, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.

When I first became a "dreamer", I wanted to discuss my dreams with others because I didn't understand them. I needed help. Eventually, because none of my teachers would help me, and none of my fellow "students" seemed to have any idea about the symbolism of dreams (they tended to take them literally), I had to go out and begin to find out about dream symbols.

I have had experiences that suggest to me that dream symbolism is a combination of collective dream symbols and personal knowledge and vocabulary. I learned Jungian psychology and the dream symbolism of animals because these are symbols that have appeared in dreams for thousands of years. So I figured they are part of the collective memory of Mankind embodied in myths and fairy tales of many different cultures. So I use Rosemary Ellen Guiley's Encyclopedia of Dreams plus Alice Anne Parker's Understand Your Dreams, both of which seem based in Jungian psychology for the collective memory issues.

One of the more interesting means of communicating with the Unconscious territory of my own animal needs is the appearance of music. I'll suddenly realize I'm whistling a song, or hear one playing in my mind. This is always a message from my subconscious mind, or else there is someone else here doing it to bring our attention to some issue or message in the song's lyrics itself. There is nothing that happens to me anymore that is not some kind of play with another part of my own mind, body, spirit, soul, or heart.

These "messages" from our inner worlds bring a lot of fun and light into our day, as we try to figure out "who" the message is from and where it might take us in our inner work during the day!
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The slot machine symbol is being used by your unihipili. What have you thought of when you saw slot machines or saw people playing them? That is what your unihipili is trying to tell you.



Hi, Two Bears

Though the slot machines appeared in 3 or 4 dreams, I can only remember two. In the first, I won $7000, much to my surprise and pleasure. In the last one I dreamt, It was an entirely different feeling. I think I had already gambled a fair amount of money and was desperately trying to win it back, even though I knew the odds were against me. I felt "addicted", to stuck to playing the machines, even though I knew it was working against me.

In waking life, I've only played slot machines on three different occassions. I played them for fun, for the experience, but ended up being shocked (and a little scared) by how addictive they were, how you tend to lose your sense of how long you've played them and how much you've lost or won. I used to think the whole issue of "gambling addiction" was an exaggeration, but now I have a hint of what that pull must be like.

I mentioned the dream symbol because I thought it was unusual, at least it is for me, even though I dream a lot. I also hoped to see others post some of their more unusual or funny dream symbols emoticon

Dee

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I want to point out how 2B's answered this post. Instead of giving his opinion of the "meaning" of the symbol of slot machines, he turned the question back on the questioner.



Although I'm aware that nobody else can accurately tell a person what their own symbols mean, I appreciate your point and it's a good reminder. When I said, "Any ideas about this?", it was more to encourage discussion into *how* to figure out dream symbols than anything else. I should have been more specific emoticon

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I hope that my reaction to Two Bears response to your suggestion for this thread wasn't offensive. I didn't mean that your proposal for a discussion of dream symbols wasn't a good one. If I did, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.



Not at all! It has simply been a very busy month and I have had next to no private time during which I can read and reply to posts.

Hopefully, that will change in the coming month as things get back to "normal" after the holidays!

Dee

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Dee to find out what a dream symbol really means; you have to find out what your unihipili thinks it means.

Your unihipili takes meanings of symbols to e whatever your authority figures, or your own uhane told your unihipili the symbol means.

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