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recommended non-huna books on shamanism


I just thought to ask whether anyone knows about other books on shamanism, that would be so low on theory and high on practical stuff as the Huna books (at least some of them) are.

(Just did a search on Peruvian shaman Don Americo Yabar, but he has no book out.)

It is said that most indigeneous nations mysticisms contain same core as Huna, and that's what I'm interested in.

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It is said that most indigeneous nations mysticisms contain same core as Huna, and that's what I'm interested in.



That is true.

Even Taoism (if Eva Wong's book "The Shambhalla guide to Shamanism" is to be believed) had it's roots in Shamanism.

Most Shamanic cultures know of the three parts of the soul.

The Hawai'ians call them unihipili, uhane, and 'aumakua.

The Lakota indians call them the nagi, nagapi, amd tungashila

The mongolian shamsns call them the ami, suns and suld.

The Taoists call them the jing, ch'i, and shen

I do not know if the israelites religion is based on shamanism or not; but they know of three parts of the soul; they call them the nephesh, ruach, and neshamah.

Most shamanic paths offer a lot to it's practitioners; buy I LOVE the simplicity and practicality of Hawai'ian mysticism because this path is open to EVERYONE without need to study with a teacher for 20 years, and also without need for complex and possibly life threatening ceremonies before aquiring
power.

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Maori Tohunga


Just stumbled upon this page about Tohunga Teachings:
http://www.waitaha.50megs.com/Tohunga%20Teachings1.htm

It seems to me like it's a word for word citation from Huna, and couldn't find any other reference to tohunga hinengaro on the net, so it might as well be repainted huna. Though there is probably a lot of similarities between Maori and Hawaiian cultures, this seems like a blunt copy of Huna.

Here is a book about Tohunga:
http://www.reed.co.nz/products.cfm?View=3312&CatID=16

(There is also http://maaori.com/wananga/, Teachings of a Tohunga Nepia Pohuhu from 1863, but is in Maori language...)

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It seems to me like it's a word for word citation from Huna, and couldn't find any other reference to tohunga hinengaro on the net, so it might as well be repainted huna. Though there is probably a lot of similarities between Maori and Hawaiian cultures, this seems like a blunt copy of Huna.



I have never heard of "tohunga hinengaro" before; so I will have to reserve comment.

I have noticed striking similarities in most of the world's religions.

In addition to the ones I mentioned before; there is the druids who use the symbol "the three drop of awen (three straight lines in a circle), and the Celts use the Triskelle symbol "A wheel with three curved spokes meeting in the center; then the Christians idea of the trinity.

It's entirely possible the Hawai'ians encountered the maori and

1. The Maori picked up things from the polynesians (a seafaring people).

2. The polynesians picked up things from the Maori.

3. Someone re-wrote huna in the concept of the Maori much the way that Hawayo Takata began the story that sensei Mikao Usui was a Christian so that Reiki would be palatable to Chriatians in the west.

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Tohunga is a cognate of Kahuna, so of course they would be similar. Maoris ARE polynesian, not just in contact with them, and in fact, there legendary ancestral homeland was called Havaiki (cognate of Hawai'i) and some people believe them to be descended from Hawaiians. Nainoa Thompson made a roundtrip voyage from Hawai'i to Aotearoa recently, in a traditional voyaging canoe using only the stars, waves, clouds, wind, birds and sun for navigation, so it was definitely possible for them.
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so of course they would be similar. Maoris ARE polynesian, not just in contact with them, and in fact, there



This is quite correct.

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ancestral homeland was called Havaiki (cognate of Hawai'i) and some people believe them to be descended from Hawaiians. Nainoa Thompson made a



The Hawai'ian Kumulipo chant says the gods came from Kahiki, and that we human beings are decendants of the gods.

Now about the name kahiki. a lot of people misinterpret that to mean the gods went to hawai'i from Tahiti. According to my hawai'ian dictionary; Kahiki is not an actual place. kahiki just means any distant place. It could have been another island, it could have been the gods came here from the higher realms; or even another planet.

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roundtrip voyage from Hawai'i to Aotearoa recently, in a traditional voyaging canoe using only the stars, waves, clouds, wind, birds and sun for navigation, so it was definitely possible for them.



Hear hear! About 98% of the people do not have a clue about their potential.

In John 10:34-39 the young carpenter calls the Pharisees gods. that statement is true.

We ARE gods having a human experience so we may learn and grow mentally and spiritually.

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